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a pair in the sixteen relations

INTP×INTP

ILI × ILI

Identity

Half a sentence, and it gets through.

Half a sentence, and it gets through. Someone who reads ahead at the same depth. But each is waiting for the other to push.

INTP and INTP compatibility in brief (love, work, friendship)

INTP × INTP is the Identity relation, one of the sixteen. Half a sentence, and it gets through.

LoveNeither takes the first step.WorkStrong at analysis. Put execution outside.Friends & conversationInteresting.

Written as INTP × INTP it is the same pair. In 16Personalities terms, the Logician and the Logician.

No explanation needed

The conversation is interesting and informative. Especially in the form of mentor and pupil. Shared intellectual interests.

In terms of the mechanism, the "intuition that calculates ahead" in INTP's first position and the "practical logic" in the second sit in exactly the same positions in the other. The view you are best at, the other is best at too. So no explanation is needed, and so no new perspective comes from the other either. The strong places overlap, and do not double.

In the old observations, in identity the same elements of both act in the same positions, and a complete, painless repulsion arises. Since no words are needed, there is also nothing the other can hand you. For these two, sensory initiative and emotional initiative are absent on both sides.

The observation says both find it hard to take the first step and expect the other to pursue almost aggressively.

Where identity is most useful is in learning. If a senior of the same type has walked the same road ahead of you, their experience can be used as it is. The observations too say repeatedly that it lasts long as mentor and pupil or with a difference in age. Only when two equal INTPs do the same thing in the same place does the repulsion described above arise.

Trying to move the other by demonstrative indifference, and draining their motivation further.

The long wait

The main strategy is to show indifference and draw out the other's activity. It backfires. Indifference lowers an already low motivation further.

The empty places are the same too. The "force that pushes and takes" INTP wants most is what the other wants most, and neither has it. The "ethics that reads distance between people", which each produces with a little effort, takes a little effort from both. What flows in silently between duals never flowed between these two in the first place.

Both enter a long wait and are disappointed by the other's passivity. Recognising the futility of the relationship and losing hope, contact lapses.

As mentor and pupil, or as distant intellectual exchange, it continues. As a married couple it is "rather problematic", the source says.

How each sees the other

INTP → INTP

The talk is interesting.

They read ahead at the same depth.

There are things to learn.

INTP → INTP

They do not move.

They show indifference.

They are waiting. So are you.

What has been recorded

Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene

ConversationInteresting.
RomanceNeither takes the first step.
Living togetherSensory care comes from no one.
WorkStrong at analysis. Put execution outside.
FamilyIt continues as distant intellectual exchange.

If you keep going

Do not try to move them by indifference
It only lowers the other's motivation.
Offer first
Both are waiting.
Put sensory care outside
Neither has it.

For these two

How to meet ── Deep inside the same hobby
A relation needing no explanation. Specialist gatherings, fans of the same author, the same sport. The person it got through to at once: that is the one.
Approach ── Connect through what is interesting
The bond between these two is interest alone. Interesting talk over talk of daily life. It ends when the interest ends, so keep the interest alive.
A date ── The same thing, side by side
A day of doing the same hobby side by side. The care of daily life comes from neither, so eat out.
Gifts ── same type; for both, Action
Take them out. Book it and pick them up. The movement INTP does not start alone. What you would be glad to receive is exactly right for the other. But you easily give each other the same thing on the same day, so hand it over first, or shift it a little.

PROne thing for this relation

A relation that gets through from half a sentence, so experiences needing no explanation.

Frequently asked

Neither of us moves
The observed long wait.
My partner is indifferent
Demonstrative indifference is this type's strategy.
It is tiring, like looking at myself
A feature of identity.
What is INTP and INTP compatibility in love?
Neither takes the first step. More under "Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene" and "If you keep going".
Do INTP and INTP work well together?
Strong at analysis. Put execution outside. More under "Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene" and "If you keep going".

This pair is the identity relation, one of the sixteen. How the relation itself arises, and how to tell it from the others, is on the relation page.

The two Model A's: what talks to what

INTP on the left, INTP on the right. Each shows where the eight elements sit; lines connect the same element. Where each line starts and ends decides what happens in this relation.

INTP · ILIINTP · ILIEGO1 leadingNiintroverted intuition2 creativeTeextraverted logicSUPER-EGO4 vulnerableFeextraverted ethics3 roleSiintroverted sensingSUPER-ID6 mobilizingFiintroverted ethics5 suggestiveSeextraverted sensingID8 demonstrativeTiintroverted logic7 ignoringNeextraverted intuition1 leadingNiintroverted intuition2 creativeTeextraverted logic4 vulnerableFeextraverted ethics3 roleSiintroverted sensing6 mobilizingFiintroverted ethics5 suggestiveSeextraverted sensing8 demonstrativeTiintroverted logic7 ignoringNeextraverted intuition

Lines connect the same element in the other person's structure. 1–2 (strong) 3 (role) 4 (vulnerable) 5–6 (wanted) 7–8 (capable, indifferent)

1 → 1NiINTP's 1 (leading) Ni (introverted intuition) sits in INTP's position 1 (leading). Both strong here. Same ground: fast understanding, and some rivalry.
2 → 2TeINTP's 2 (creative) Te (extraverted logic) sits in INTP's position 2 (creative). Both strong here. Same ground: fast understanding, and some rivalry.
3 → 3SiINTP's 3 (role) Si (introverted sensing) sits in INTP's position 3 (role). Both weak. The same thing goes wrong for both.
4 → 4FeINTP's 4 (vulnerable) Fe (extraverted ethics) sits in INTP's position 4 (vulnerable). Both weak. The same thing goes wrong for both.
7 → 7NeINTP's 7 (ignoring) Ne (extraverted intuition) sits in INTP's position 7 (ignoring). Both capable, both indifferent. Left alone.
8 → 8TiINTP's 8 (demonstrative) Ti (introverted logic) sits in INTP's position 8 (demonstrative). Both capable, both indifferent. Left alone.

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