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ENTP×ENTP

ILE × ILE

Identity

Half a sentence, and it gets through.

Half a sentence, and it gets through. Someone amused by the same things at the same speed. But the same place is empty in both of you.

ENTP and ENTP compatibility in brief (love, work, friendship)

ENTP × ENTP is the Identity relation, one of the sixteen. Half a sentence, and it gets through.

LoveLasts while it is interesting. Wears down because care of daily life comes from no one.WorkThe strongest pair for research and planning. Split the roles of deciding and executing.Friends & conversationThe best scene.

Written as ENTP × ENTP it is the same pair. In 16Personalities terms, the Debater and the Debater.

No explanation needed

You read the same books, laugh at the same places, produce the same branches. Sharing premises takes no time, and the thinking feels equal. As an intellectual alliance, there is no faster partner.

In terms of the mechanism, the "eye that sees possibilities" in ENTP's first position and the "logic that carries an idea through" in the second sit in exactly the same positions in the other. The view you are best at, the other is best at too. So no explanation is needed, and so no new perspective comes from the other either. The strong places overlap, and do not double.

In the old observations, in identity the same elements of both act in the same positions, and a complete, painless repulsion arises. Since no words are needed, there is also nothing the other can hand you. For these two, the hands that keep daily life in order and the hands that handle feelings are absent on both sides.

The observation says they "stay together only while they find each other interesting". Interest is the only bond, and it breaks for any other reason.

Lasts while it is interesting; ends on the day it is not.

Not yielding intellectual territory

Housework eats into creative time, and nobody offers the morning coffee or a clean shirt. Quarrels over dividing the work become emotional clashes, and both feel neglected.

The empty places are the same too. The "hands that arrange bodily comfort" ENTP wants most are what the other wants most, and neither has them. The "emotional fire", which each produces with a little effort, takes a little effort from both. What flows in silently between duals never flowed between these two in the first place.

Competition appears too. Neither acknowledges the other's intellectual superiority, and one ends up taking care not to look the cleverer.

Still, as an alliance for research or business it is strong. Split the roles and put care of daily life outside, and the two can think and act as one.

How each sees the other

ENTP → ENTP

They understand at the same speed. Skip the explanation and it still gets through.

They produce the same branches you would.

Interesting. That alone is a reason to meet.

ENTP → ENTP

Care of daily life comes from neither side.

They will not yield intellectual superiority.

On the day it stops being interesting, the reason to meet vanishes.

What has been recorded

A pair on record

John von Neumann (ILE) × Richard Feynman (ILE)

Typing: both types agree across several published sources

Two men on the same project at Los Alamos. The older von Neumann told the young Feynman "you don't have to be responsible for the world", and Feynman made it a lifelong guide. No joint research; they acknowledged each other's speed and ran separately.

What matches: intellectual equality and speed, and no bond other than interest.

Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene

ConversationThe best scene.
RomanceLasts while it is interesting. Wears down because care of daily life comes from no one.
Living togetherQuarrels over the division of housework. Leave it to a system.
WorkThe strongest pair for research and planning. Split the roles of deciding and executing.
FamilyA relation that is better the more distance there is.

If you keep going

Put care of daily life outside
It comes from neither side.
Split the roles
Doing the same thing in the same place becomes competition.
Make a bond other than interest
A relation that ends on the day interest runs out.

For these two

How to meet ── Deep inside the same hobby
A relation needing no explanation. Specialist gatherings, fans of the same author, the same sport. The person it got through to at once: that is the one.
Approach ── Connect through what is interesting
The bond between these two is interest alone. Interesting talk over talk of daily life. It ends when the interest ends, so keep the interest alive.
A date ── The same thing, side by side
A day of doing the same hobby side by side. The care of daily life comes from neither, so eat out.
Gifts ── same type; for both, Comfort
A good blanket, good food, things that ease the body. What ENTP does not buy for themselves. What you would be glad to receive is exactly right for the other. But you easily give each other the same thing on the same day, so hand it over first, or shift it a little.

PROne thing for this relation

A relation that gets through from half a sentence, so experiences needing no explanation.

Frequently asked

The talk is the best, but daily life does not run
Because the same place is empty.
I cannot admit my partner is cleverer than me
The observation too says neither yields territory. No need to admit it; dividing the territory is enough.
It is tiring, like looking at myself
A feature of identity. It returns with distance.
What is ENTP and ENTP compatibility in love?
Lasts while it is interesting. Wears down because care of daily life comes from no one. More under "Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene" and "If you keep going".
Do ENTP and ENTP work well together?
The strongest pair for research and planning. Split the roles of deciding and executing. More under "Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene" and "If you keep going".

This pair is the identity relation, one of the sixteen. How the relation itself arises, and how to tell it from the others, is on the relation page.

The two Model A's: what talks to what

ENTP on the left, ENTP on the right. Each shows where the eight elements sit; lines connect the same element. Where each line starts and ends decides what happens in this relation.

ENTP · ILEENTP · ILEEGO1 leadingNeextraverted intuition2 creativeTiintroverted logicSUPER-EGO4 vulnerableFiintroverted ethics3 roleSeextraverted sensingSUPER-ID6 mobilizingFeextraverted ethics5 suggestiveSiintroverted sensingID8 demonstrativeTeextraverted logic7 ignoringNiintroverted intuition1 leadingNeextraverted intuition2 creativeTiintroverted logic4 vulnerableFiintroverted ethics3 roleSeextraverted sensing6 mobilizingFeextraverted ethics5 suggestiveSiintroverted sensing8 demonstrativeTeextraverted logic7 ignoringNiintroverted intuition

Lines connect the same element in the other person's structure. 1–2 (strong) 3 (role) 4 (vulnerable) 5–6 (wanted) 7–8 (capable, indifferent)

1 → 1NeENTP's 1 (leading) Ne (extraverted intuition) sits in ENTP's position 1 (leading). Both strong here. Same ground: fast understanding, and some rivalry.
2 → 2TiENTP's 2 (creative) Ti (introverted logic) sits in ENTP's position 2 (creative). Both strong here. Same ground: fast understanding, and some rivalry.
3 → 3SeENTP's 3 (role) Se (extraverted sensing) sits in ENTP's position 3 (role). Both weak. The same thing goes wrong for both.
4 → 4FiENTP's 4 (vulnerable) Fi (introverted ethics) sits in ENTP's position 4 (vulnerable). Both weak. The same thing goes wrong for both.
7 → 7NiENTP's 7 (ignoring) Ni (introverted intuition) sits in ENTP's position 7 (ignoring). Both capable, both indifferent. Left alone.
8 → 8TeENTP's 8 (demonstrative) Te (extraverted logic) sits in ENTP's position 8 (demonstrative). Both capable, both indifferent. Left alone.

Other pairs in the «Identity»

This page is also available in Japanese: ENTP と ENTP の相性. Русская версия: ENTP × ENTP.

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