You notice the same thing, and go about it differently.
Looking at the same document, you both stop at the same line. The judgement matches; the way forward from there is reversed.
ENTJ and ESTJ compatibility in brief (love, work, friendship)
ENTJ × ESTJ is the Kindred relation, one of the sixteen. You notice the same thing, and go about it differently.
LoveAn agreement not to bring future planning and household management to each other works.WorkHolding separate projects and pooling them works better than holding the same one side by side.Friends & conversationFor a short time, the best. Not many people need no explanation of premises.
Written as ESTJ × ENTJ it is the same pair. In 16Personalities terms, the Commander and the Executive.
In a meeting, only the two of you notice the same slack. What one starts to say, the other catches by the third word. Where you want to rest and where you overstrain are the same too.
But the way forward is reversed. ENTJ looks for shortcuts, tries unverified modifications, and treats time as a resource that can be moved. ESTJ documents every step, checks quality, and sees lateness as a moral failing. In the old observations, in kindred relations the role function and the leading function are carried by the same element; there is much in common in orientation to the world, but it does not reach complete identification.
As a working partner, no better match. Only shortcuts and procedures never align to the end.
There are moments when you cannot acknowledge the other
ENTJ takes apart a working machine to try another way, breaks it and makes a joke of it. ESTJ rebuilds it from scratch and sees the abandoned procedure as incompetence. Over money, ENTJ hides profits and puts them into speculation; over time, changes agreements unilaterally.
In feeling, both are rude. ENTJ deflects with jokes; ESTJ retaliates sharply. ESTJ holds grudges; ENTJ escapes. Neither has the hands to heal a wound. Reconciliation comes only when a successful joint venture produces profit.
How each sees the other
ENTJ → ESTJ
They find the slack in the same place. Someone from whom what you delegate always comes back.
But they rebuild all your attempts from scratch.
And they hold grudges.
ESTJ → ENTJ
They find the slack in the same place. Almost no checking is needed.
But they take apart a machine that is working. Break it and make a joke of it.
And they change agreements unilaterally.
What has been recorded
SCENE 01Break it and make a joke of it
The LIE dismantles a machine that works normally to experiment, breaks it and makes a joke of it; the LSE is furious and rebuilds it from scratch. The most common scene in the observations.
SCENE 02Selling the premarital house without asking
A case of an LIE selling his wife's premarital house without permission to buy a truck, abandoning it within weeks, demanding money again, and finally leaving the country. Hiding profits and putting the other's share into speculation, the record says.
SCENE 03The market chose quality
A factory where the LIE proposed making cheap in bulk and the LSE defended expensive handwork. The market chose the LSE's quality, and the LSE pushed the LIE out, the record says.
A pair on record
Thomas Edison (LIE) × Henry Ford (LSE)
Typing: both types agree across several published sources
Edison encouraged the young engineer Ford's idea for an automobile with "that's it". Lifelong friends from then on. They went camping together every year, and Ford had Edison's laboratory moved and preserved in its entirety. They never had a joint business.
What matches: the contrast between the side that runs by trial and error and the side that perfects the process, and the kindred observation of being "liked from a distance".
Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene
ConversationFor a short time, the best. Not many people need no explanation of premises.
RomanceAn agreement not to bring future planning and household management to each other works.
Living togetherIt splits over time and money. Separate the purses and write down agreements.
WorkHolding separate projects and pooling them works better than holding the same one side by side.
FamilyA relation that is better the more distance there is.
If you keep going
Do not aim talk of shortcuts and procedures at each other
Each can strike the other's sore spot.
Separate the purses
No joint purse.
Reconcile through a joint venture
Only the profits of a successful venture bring these two back.
For these two
How to meet ── Working on the same problem
A relation that notices the same things. Committees, projects, helping with a move. The person who said "isn't this weird?" at the same moment: that is the one.
Approach ── Leave the method to them
You notice the same things, and proceed differently. Push your own steps and you quarrel. Split the jobs and do not comment on their way.
A date ── A day with roles
Cooking together, DIY, planning a trip. With a purpose, these two are at ease. Time without a purpose feels a little long.
Gifts ── for ENTJ, Feeling; for ESTJ, Feeling
For ENTJ: A letter, something handmade. Something without practical value, for the practical one. What ENTJ thinks they cannot receive. For ESTJ: A letter, something handmade, words. What ESTJ does not produce alone.
PROne thing for this relation
A relation that notices the same thing and proceeds differently, so tools to align the method.
Because each one's most practised way lands on the other's most painful place.
ENTJ changes agreements on their own
They treat time as a resource that can be moved, the observation says.
They look like a good person with other people
A relation liked from a distance.
What is ENTJ and ESTJ compatibility in love?
An agreement not to bring future planning and household management to each other works. More under "Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene" and "If you keep going".
Do ENTJ and ESTJ work well together?
Holding separate projects and pooling them works better than holding the same one side by side. More under "Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene" and "If you keep going".
This pair is the kindred relation, one of the sixteen. How the relation itself arises, and how to tell it from the others, is on the relation page.
The two Model A's: what talks to what
ENTJ on the left, ESTJ on the right. Each shows where the eight elements sit; lines connect the same element. Where each line starts and ends decides what happens in this relation.
Lines connect the same element in the other person's structure. 1–2 (strong) 3 (role) 4 (vulnerable) 5–6 (wanted) 7–8 (capable, indifferent)
1 → 1TeENTJ's 1 (leading) Te (extraverted logic) sits in ESTJ's position 1 (leading). Both strong here. Same ground: fast understanding, and some rivalry.
2 → 4NiENTJ's 2 (creative) Ni (introverted intuition) sits in ESTJ's position 4 (vulnerable). What ENTJ does as a matter of course lands on ESTJ's sore spot. Pressure without malice.
3 → 3FeENTJ's 3 (role) Fe (extraverted ethics) sits in ESTJ's position 3 (role). Both weak. The same thing goes wrong for both.
4 → 2SiENTJ's 4 (vulnerable) Si (introverted sensing) sits in ESTJ's position 2 (creative). ESTJ leads exactly where ENTJ is weak. ENTJ feels seen through.
5 → 5FiENTJ's 5 (suggestive) Fi (introverted ethics) sits in ESTJ's position 5 (suggestive). Both want it, neither has it. Must come from outside.
6 → 8SeENTJ's 6 (mobilizing) Se (extraverted sensing) sits in ESTJ's position 8 (demonstrative). ESTJ could give it but does not think to. Comes when ENTJ asks in words.
7 → 7TiENTJ's 7 (ignoring) Ti (introverted logic) sits in ESTJ's position 7 (ignoring). Both capable, both indifferent. Left alone.
8 → 6NeENTJ's 8 (demonstrative) Ne (extraverted intuition) sits in ESTJ's position 6 (mobilizing). ENTJ has what ESTJ wants without noticing. Appears only when asked.