ENTP enters from possibilities and builds by logic. ENTJ enters from gain and builds by calculating ahead. New things, business, theory. Interests overlap, and ENTP's "interesting" and ENTJ's "profitable" point in different directions within the same conversation.
In terms of the mechanism, ENTP's first position, "eye that sees possibilities", corresponds to ENTJ's eighth, and ENTP's second, "logic that carries an idea through", to ENTJ's seventh. The seventh and eighth are places that are strong but not used consciously. So ENTJ understands what ENTP does. Understands, and yet does not do it themselves. The reverse is the same: ENTJ's "practical logic" and "intuition that calculates ahead" are ENTP's unconscious strong places. Reading the same book and talking about a different one.
Augustinavičiūtė called it "the relation of parallel intellects". The kinds of the most developed elements coincide; direction and character are reversed. Interests overlap; methods pass each other by.
The other's advice can be used. Learning from the other is impossible.
In trouble, nothing comes
ENTP waits for bodily comfort and care; ENTJ waits for the ethics of distance between people. Both are the other's sore spot; in ordinary times that causes no trouble, and in trouble no support comes.
ENTP waits for "bodily comfort" and ENTJ for "ethics of distance between people", but each is the other's fourth, the weakest place. The calm is partly due to this arrangement. Neither has a tool that strikes the sore spot. But in trouble no support comes. Long in a closed small group, this blank turns into fatigue.
A good pair given an audience. Avoid long time alone together and closed plans. That is the form in which these two last.
How each sees the other
ENTP → ENTJ
Fast to execute. They earn.
They cut your ideas down with gain.
They ask you for distance between people.
ENTJ → ENTP
Many ideas. Interesting.
They do not turn them into gain.
They ask you for care of the body.
What has been recorded
SCENE 01In front of an audience
In group discussion with an audience they work well, supporting and building on each other's ideas and making far-reaching, ambitious plans together. Alone, or in a small group, the understanding suddenly thins, the record says.
SCENE 02Help you do not want to give
The weak places are weak in both. In trouble, help you do not want to give is drawn out, and the inability to support becomes mutual irritation, the record says.
SCENE 03Pulling toward one's own pole
In joint work, each quietly pulls matters toward their own pole, enriching and correcting each other. Acknowledging the other's talent and potential and forgiving weakness, a "tolerance for collision", is the strength, the record says.
Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene
ConversationLively in public. It thins alone.
RomanceFar from ideal, the observation says.
Living togetherIn trouble, no support comes.
WorkGood results in the field of business.
FamilyCalm, on parallel lines.
If you keep going
Keep an audience
A pair that thins alone.
Do not try to learn
The advice can be used; it cannot be learned.
Have support in trouble outside
Each other's sore spots.
For these two
How to meet ── In front of people
A relation that sees different views in the same words. Meetings, parties, places with an audience. A good pair in public, so meeting there leaves a good impression.
Approach ── Do not hurry the conclusion
The talk fits. The conclusion does not. Do not try to change theirs; stop at "so that's how you see it". Enjoy the same book as a different book.
A date ── Somewhere crowded
A festival, a market, a big exhibition. Walking side by side among people is easier for these two than long hours alone.
Gifts ── for ENTP, Comfort; for ENTJ, Feeling
For ENTP: A good blanket, good food, things that ease the body. What ENTP does not buy for themselves. For ENTJ: A letter, something handmade. Something without practical value, for the practical one. What ENTJ thinks they cannot receive.
PROne thing for this relation
A relation that sees different views in the same words, so tools to set the views side by side.
Podcast equipmentThe conversation of these two comes alive when others listen.
Frequently asked
In public it is the best, but
Understanding thins alone, the record says.
I cannot imitate my partner's way of thinking
Understanding without being able to imitate is the feel of quasi-identity.
What about marriage?
Attainable but far from ideal, the observation says.
What is ENTP and ENTJ compatibility in love?
Far from ideal, the observation says. More under "Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene" and "If you keep going".
Do ENTP and ENTJ work well together?
Good results in the field of business. More under "Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene" and "If you keep going".
This pair is the quasi-identity relation, one of the sixteen. How the relation itself arises, and how to tell it from the others, is on the relation page.
The two Model A's: what talks to what
ENTP on the left, ENTJ on the right. Each shows where the eight elements sit; lines connect the same element. Where each line starts and ends decides what happens in this relation.
Lines connect the same element in the other person's structure. 1–2 (strong) 3 (role) 4 (vulnerable) 5–6 (wanted) 7–8 (capable, indifferent)
1 → 8NeENTP's 1 (leading) Ne (extraverted intuition) sits in ENTJ's position 8 (demonstrative). ENTJ can do what ENTP is good at but does not value it. ENTP feels slightly unappreciated.
2 → 7TiENTP's 2 (creative) Ti (introverted logic) sits in ENTJ's position 7 (ignoring). ENTJ can do what ENTP is good at but does not value it. ENTP feels slightly unappreciated.
3 → 6SeENTP's 3 (role) Se (extraverted sensing) sits in ENTJ's position 6 (mobilizing). ENTP is weak here and ENTJ wants it. A gap neither can fill.
4 → 5FiENTP's 4 (vulnerable) Fi (introverted ethics) sits in ENTJ's position 5 (suggestive). ENTP is weak here and ENTJ wants it. A gap neither can fill.
5 → 4SiENTP's 5 (suggestive) Si (introverted sensing) sits in ENTJ's position 4 (vulnerable). What ENTP asks for is ENTJ's weakest point. The more ENTP asks, the smaller ENTJ gets.
6 → 3FeENTP's 6 (mobilizing) Fe (extraverted ethics) sits in ENTJ's position 3 (role). What ENTP asks for is ENTJ's weakest point. The more ENTP asks, the smaller ENTJ gets.
7 → 2NiENTP's 7 (ignoring) Ni (introverted intuition) sits in ENTJ's position 2 (creative). ENTJ's main field is one ENTP does not care about. Little friction, little interest.
8 → 1TeENTP's 8 (demonstrative) Te (extraverted logic) sits in ENTJ's position 1 (leading). ENTJ's main field is one ENTP does not care about. Little friction, little interest.